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| Hamlet |
Posted: August 21, 2008 09:36 am
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I finished the thing this morning.
Top; ![]() Back; ![]() Things I learned; This is a COMPAQ PS2013 ATX PSU *The green PWR_OK is not connected to black gnd, but to the white cable... labelled "aux 9". *The PS2013 does not work properly without a load resistor. Some PSU designs do, this doesent. Sincerely, Hamlet -------------------- "If there is because there should be a maybe, perhaps I would not try to perhaps it would significantly improve the approval of the things that make all rather nice" - Hamlet
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| 10100011 |
Posted: August 21, 2008 09:46 am
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OH MY GOSH!! I've built one myself, and had the PWR_OK going to an LED then to COMM, to give a visual indication..but it never starts up - that would be why Well, back to the guts to fix it Oh, and im loving the yellow colour scheme -------------------- "A drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts"
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| Hamlet |
Posted: August 21, 2008 10:05 am
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Those two on the top are 4mm 'banana' jacks.
Hamlet -------------------- "If there is because there should be a maybe, perhaps I would not try to perhaps it would significantly improve the approval of the things that make all rather nice" - Hamlet
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| 10100011 |
Posted: August 21, 2008 10:08 am
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ah ok, thanks
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| paulwoody |
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What is the item to the rear of the PSU covered in what looks like green plastic and connected by a couple of spade connectors?
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| draget |
Posted: August 21, 2008 11:20 am
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wirewound resistor
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| paulwoody |
Posted: August 21, 2008 11:23 am
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Is the wire wound resistor the Load Resistor?
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| CWB |
Posted: August 21, 2008 12:07 pm
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heh heh heh ... coooolll
man , that looks like it would fit right in on the old original "flash gordon" series ! |
| Jimthecopierwrench |
Posted: August 21, 2008 12:52 pm
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Good show. I mean the supply.
It never quite sat well with me just making by-heat with a load resistor though. (it's a personal thing, not a 'poor design' thing) So far I've found that either just a 12V puter fan or a small incandescent automotive bulb (bayonet clearence light bulbs will fit in the old school "6.3V" jewel panel indicators) presented enough for a load. -------------------- Stranded in time. Surrounded by evil. Low on gas...
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| Hamlet |
Posted: August 21, 2008 05:13 pm
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I know its not efficient, the resistor I mean. But I had it lying in my drawer. It draws roughly 600mA (out of the 20A allowed combined on both 3.3V and 5V). All of the stuff I used on it are salvaged (old USSR = big switch and resistor power) - so it was a sort of for looks project. A fan would have been a better alternative.
"Flash Gordon" indeed. -------------------- "If there is because there should be a maybe, perhaps I would not try to perhaps it would significantly improve the approval of the things that make all rather nice" - Hamlet
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| ChipUser |
Posted: August 21, 2008 06:08 pm
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And you have done very well! What have you used to engrave the Al plate/dial? To complete the look I think you need a bakelite look power cable connector and cotton/silk covered mains cord. They used to have these on old irons & kettles. Recently I have seen a bakelite connector on a rice cooker but not the cable. Only if there was a way to give some retro look to the cooling fan |
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| Hamlet |
Posted: August 21, 2008 09:11 pm
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I used a dremel with a 2mm diamond tip. I have some of those cotton wound cables, but they are no go in this case. I like the plug in and out of mains made easy, grounded besides. I have some fans from the 70's or so, but they are huge and noisy and so on. No go as well.
Regards, Hamlet -------------------- "If there is because there should be a maybe, perhaps I would not try to perhaps it would significantly improve the approval of the things that make all rather nice" - Hamlet
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| MacFromOK |
Posted: August 21, 2008 10:33 pm
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That looks pretty cool, nice job.
-------------------- Mac *
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| kl27x |
Posted: August 22, 2008 02:27 am
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Very nice looking! Did you paint it, yourself, or did it come like that? What did you salvage the rotary switch from? I have three extra compy PSU's lying around, and this post finally got me motivated to make a bench PSU out of one of em, although it won't look anywhere near so nice.
I think there may be one oversight, though. You appear to have only one output jack. That would make the -5V and -12V selections into redundant, low amperage voltage sources with the leads switched, for most intents and purposes. If that's the case, I have another suggestion while you're in there amending things... move the resistor to the middle of the case so you can use it for a carrying handle. |
| CWB |
Posted: August 22, 2008 02:57 am
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""Flash Gordon" indeed."
is that said with a dr. smith infliction ? |
| Hamlet |
Posted: August 22, 2008 09:13 am
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I ripped the switch from an old hobby-photo purpose timed relay. I have seen this switch in many USSR devices, seems to be a standard. A neat design because the switches can be theoretically stacked to infinity.
![]() This is the belly of the single switch I used. The switch from the relay. I wonder how many amperes can I draw before the contacts start melting. ![]() This shows the switches stacked. This is from some oddball thermometer. I painted the box myself. I don't mind the low-amperage. The resistor is wound onto a ceramic tube, not a good idea to use it as a handle. Hamlet -------------------- "If there is because there should be a maybe, perhaps I would not try to perhaps it would significantly improve the approval of the things that make all rather nice" - Hamlet
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| CWB |
Posted: August 22, 2008 12:58 pm
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there were a couple of companies in the US that manufactured a line of "roll your own switches and pots" .
you could build up just about any thing you needed ... they were designed for use in the consumer repair industry . one company used a blue/yellow box ... CRC or IRC comes to mind . the mallory company (caps/rf stuff/ignition) had a line of ceramic rf deck switches . |
| Colt45 |
Posted: August 22, 2008 02:20 pm
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I think johnson used to make some ceramic switches too. Definitely made ceramic tube sockets, at least.
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| CWB |
Posted: August 22, 2008 02:34 pm
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yep , they made some stuff .
eimac was another outfit . |
| tekwiz |
Posted: August 22, 2008 06:54 pm
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I'll bet!! ARRRH! Sizzle me timbers, matey! Nice work. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
For to you, kings & armies are things mighty & enduring. To him, mere toys of the moment, to be overturned at the flick of a finger. Fortuna favet fortibus. |
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| ChipUser |
Posted: August 22, 2008 08:30 pm
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Not in full amperes if this is a representative of the type of switch: http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=24B027 |
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| MicorRT |
Posted: August 22, 2008 08:57 pm
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I like it the only thing I would do is make a load resistor that I can set my coffee mug on.
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| AdamO |
Posted: August 23, 2008 05:28 am
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i like this idea. Maybe you could salvage/design a small hotplate that could serve as the load resistor? Not that I'm knockin the one you've got--looks great. |
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| kl27x |
Posted: August 23, 2008 07:42 pm
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My own ATX power supply is completed, thanks to your inspiration, here. As for the load resistor - I not only found out that mine did not require one, but I discovered why.
I did some multimeter probing using various load resistors on the 5V line and a 12 amp load on the 12V lines, and the load resistor made no difference. The 12V output under 12 amp load was always 11.52-11.56V, no matter what was on the 5V line. When 12V line was left open circuit, the voltage was 13.06V, regardless of what I put on the 5V line. After all this mucking around, I probed the 5V line to measure actual resistance of all the smaller load resistors I was adding in parallel. And something was off. The measured resistance between power and ground is 8 ohms, even without an extra load resistor! I found an 8 ohm power resistor between 5V and ground, and I found a 10 ohm power resistor between 3.3v and ground in my supply. So anyone doing this at home, check resistance between +5 and ground before you start adding extra load! It may have a resistive load built in! Mine is a cheapie Rosewill AP-400X from Newegg. |
| tekwiz |
Posted: August 23, 2008 10:33 pm
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The switch Hamlet is using has contacts that are considerably more robust. It should be good for several amps without any problems, especially if it is not switched under load. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
For to you, kings & armies are things mighty & enduring. To him, mere toys of the moment, to be overturned at the flick of a finger. Fortuna favet fortibus. |
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