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Sch3mat1c
Posted: March 26, 2016 08:16 am
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Scandisk says it looks like this

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but it's not finding any new errors, so I think it's fixed.

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(Story: playing with my 'vintage' Pentium again. Was fine last time I checked, over a year ago. So, this is new bit rot. Barely booted, very slow, lots of "thinking" and occasional clacking sounds. Eventually got it back to booting Win95 in a reasonable manner. Between SCANDISK and SCANDSKW, it took the better part of a week to finish the surface scan. A few thousand bad clusters. I'll copy it over to a 1GB CF, as soon as the IDE adapter arrives.)

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Posted: March 26, 2016 07:23 pm
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ROFL, B-B-B-Bad to the bone...

I can almost hear the screams of dying data. laugh.gif


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Posted: March 26, 2016 07:44 pm
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I remember back in the day,probably on a 486,of some sort.. I had a whopping 210megabyte drive (that was actually pretty big,at the time). One day it was acting strange or something,so I ran scandisk,found a bad block (boo!) but it seemed to repair it.
Couple days later,acting weird again,had like 3 bad blocks this time. (uhoh!)
Couple more days later,and it looked like that. FUBAR. sad.gif



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Posted: March 26, 2016 10:13 pm
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o you lucky B biggrin.gif
back in 1992 i felt lucky to have a 40 Mbyte drive..
on a 386-dx chip, i remember that computer, i sortha think i may even still have it *somewhere*...

i still have on of my elder computers for nostaliga dos gaming (authentic dos gaming, that is. ) it outlived quite a few new age computers..
the most interesting is the powersupply, and the fans.
unlike nowdays stuff, it just keeps working, and working..
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Posted: March 27, 2016 07:49 am
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Ah, but I'm still fiddling with the ST-238R in the Amstrad 8086. Seems it's gotten out of alignment somehow; the data is there, but DOS doesn't want to talk to it. rolleyes.gif

Back in 1996 when the above PC was new, it would've been a fair subject of jealousy for most.. PC750, 64MB RAM(!), Pentium 90, 2MB SVGA, ISA and PCI slots, onboard audio... smile.gif The 6GB HDD is rather overkill, I think an addition around '99, maybe sooner.

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Posted: March 27, 2016 11:34 am
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Image the fact that such PCs are now 'vintage' laugh.gif

They are pretty hard to come by too. The vintage radio forum I frequent has some fans of older PCs and their enthusiasm is addictive!

Got to say though, if you get hold of an old ISA mobo it WILL most likely work regardless of its age! Can't say the same for many of the modern boards.


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Posted: March 27, 2016 01:21 pm
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Yeah, not much to rust away on the things. Not usually electrolytics (or many of em), no weak girly Flash ROM or HDD bits to decay, maybe the edge connectors get bent and lose contact.

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Posted: March 27, 2016 03:51 pm
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actualy old parts do have longer life...
my gravis ultrasound is still working just as good as brand new.

and still makes a wounerfull sound.
my voodoo 3 gpu is allso working just like brand new, kicking hard ever since i got it.
same for any cpu you can come by, they just.. work.
hard drive allso take a lot more than newage stuff.
memory allso.

where did things go this wrong...
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Posted: March 27, 2016 08:30 pm
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Yeah. I've got 20 year old portable laptops here (as shown in the electronics show #2) and the harddisks are working just fine without any maintenance from me. Still alive and kicking.



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Posted: March 27, 2016 10:44 pm
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I still got my original first home computer...

A Commodore 64... worked perfect last time i switched it on.. however many of the old tapes are not working that well anymore.. and the tape deck itself is starting to give grief... but that is the mechanical parts worn down, the electronics work like magic..



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Posted: March 28, 2016 01:49 am
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Sure you don't just need to grease it up a little? I've never truly had any C64 Deck or Disk drive die on me due to being "worn out", if anything they DRY out - so you need to grease the bearings and cylinders that the head ride on (if it's a Floppy Disk Drive).



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Posted: March 29, 2016 07:06 pm
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This is the first desktop HD I've had go rotten. I'm 2 for 2 on laptop HD deaths though: the first one, it shut down one day and never started back up (didn't even spin!); the other, I think the MBR got toasted and not much else, but I replaced it just in case.

I've had one 3.5" IDE go noisy and whiny, but it still works as far as I know (I just have no use for a slow 30GB riding on questionable bearings! smile.gif ).

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Posted: March 30, 2016 03:56 am
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Never had one die?!?!? Go buy many lottery tickets.

I generally see a 2-3yr lifespan on standard desktop drives. That said, it gets rather warm here and I run them 24/7. But dead 90s/2000s drives seemed just as common to me when they were 10 years old. Probably partly because back then people turned their computers on, checked email, and shut them off again...

More recently I've bought more expensive drives with longer warranty in the hope that it will save me the pain of every second replacement or so.
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Posted: March 30, 2016 08:04 am
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QUOTE (JoOngle @ March 28, 2016 02:49 am)
Sure you don't just need to grease it up a little? I've never truly had any C64 Deck or Disk drive die on me due to being "worn out", if anything they DRY out - so you need to grease the bearings and cylinders that the head ride on (if it's a Floppy Disk Drive).

hehe... Its a Tape deck
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The idler rubber has gone hard and brittle, also it's no longer 'round' and the belt slips a bit

The tape head is also a bit touchy, Last time i used it i spent a long time trying to get a good read off one of my favorite game tapes..

However I've had many a HDD simply pack-up on me, some of the new stuff coming out today will die a few days after warranty has ended.. However i got a server running for years with a few drives from back in early 2000's, and they running perfect...


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Don't expect the CF to last very long... Windows has a few sections of memory it read/writes from all the time. CF has no wear-leveling of any kind that I'm aware of and will die. Fast.
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Posted: April 20, 2016 09:12 am
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I disabled page file (64MB is pretty good RAM, anyway), but in any case all three of my CF cards are rather old and I shall buy new ones soon. smile.gif


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Posted: April 21, 2016 06:19 am
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It's actually not just the swap file, but some logging and registry writting that will nuke your CF in no time...
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Posted: April 21, 2016 08:01 am
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How often?

I haven't seen it blinking away or anything.

I do recall Win98SE would twitch the HDD about every second, from some sort of background task.

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Beats me. I'm guessing modern(ish) CF has wear leveling but if it doesn't: even if Win is writing to the same location once per hout it will kill it in a year. Once a minuten: in a week.
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Posted: May 21, 2016 08:44 am
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Flashback:

http://www.hultbergs.org/defrag/
It even has authentic HDD sounds!

(This is WAY too fast..)
http://giphy.com/gifs/satisfying-defragmen...n-fCGnSIe56G1JC


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Posted: May 21, 2016 07:22 pm
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OMG.. i sat for 5 minutes watching them each...... You're cruel...


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Posted: May 22, 2016 03:39 am
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LOL! You used to have to watch that for hours! wink.gif


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QUOTE (Nothing40 @ May 22, 2016 04:39 am)
LOL! You used to have to watch that for hours! wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Only out of necessity... No reason to sit and watch a simulation for that long....


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