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| pave_spectre |
Posted: February 08, 2012 02:19 am
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I believe he may have been wondering at the implications of the sites choice of name as inferred from the actual stories of Ali Baba. -------------------- My Get Up and Go, got up and went
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| telomere |
Posted: February 08, 2012 03:14 am
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Ah. My bad.
-------------------- "Sometimes I can't tell the difference between thinking and being quiet, but I'll try."
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| serein |
Posted: February 08, 2012 05:23 pm
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Here is the new link
http://i41.tinypic.com/2q3tbau.jpg http://tinyurl.com/6ogul83 This post has been edited by serein on February 08, 2012 05:26 pm |
| telomere |
Posted: February 08, 2012 05:49 pm
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The size of the heatsink, in conjunction with it being aluminum (as opposed to copper) are pretty modest... but those fans look like they would move a lot of air.
It will be quite noisy, but I would think that it would work fine for a 100W unit. -------------------- "Sometimes I can't tell the difference between thinking and being quiet, but I'll try."
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| tekwiz |
Posted: February 08, 2012 10:46 pm
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I'd consider that heatsink OK if your ambient temperature always remains below 30°C, the fan is always on with the light, & it doesn't get plugged with dust. The problem with those high power LED light engines is that you never get proper data with them, so you don't know the maximum allowable case temperature or the thermal resistance of the LED unit. Maximum allowable junction temperature for white LEDs is 160°C. This means that your heatsink temperature should never exceed 100° under any circumstances, & this assumes the LED assembly is properly mounted. Before mounting those LEDs onto a heatsink, I always hand lap both LED & heatsink until they are perfectly flat. It's amazing how uneven those surfaces can be. I try to keep the temperature of the surface of the light emitting area under 125°. Under 100° preferrably. The cooler you keep them, the longer they last. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
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| telomere |
Posted: February 09, 2012 02:24 am
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And the brighter/more efficient they are. -------------------- "Sometimes I can't tell the difference between thinking and being quiet, but I'll try."
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| serein |
Posted: February 13, 2012 08:49 pm
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Thanks people
I was wondering what would be the best specs for the 100W Aluminium heatsinks For example http://i40.tinypic.com/v7428j.jpg the size,dimension,thickness and do they weigh much A supplier said that the shipping would be higher due to the weight Is that so ? |
| tekwiz |
Posted: February 13, 2012 08:56 pm
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WE can't tell you much more unless we know your intended operating environment, as this will make a big difference in heatsink requirements.
However, used with a small fan, half of one of those heatsinks would be enough for indoor use where ambient temps never exceed 30°C. Those heatsinks probably weigh in the neighborhood of .75-1.1kg each. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
For to you, kings & armies are things mighty & enduring. To him, mere toys of the moment, to be overturned at the flick of a finger. Fortuna favet fortibus. |
| serein |
Posted: February 15, 2012 07:25 pm
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Alright I have checked the ambient temp and it came to be 24.8 Celsius.
The reason I asked about the size and dimension for the heatsinks is that some supplier are asking those details. I do thank all of you for your consistent help and information. I guess I am getting crazy for the heatsinks |
| atom |
Posted: February 15, 2012 11:47 pm
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Depending where you are in the world I would recommending designing to allow for 35C ambient temperatures or higher. You may be measuring 24.8C now, but that doesn't mean it won't reach higher on a hot day. Bearing in mind that the device will heat up the air around it (exactly how much depends on air flow), it's probably best to design for 40-45C air temperatures. |
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| tekwiz |
Posted: February 17, 2012 08:03 pm
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Dimensions aren't everything, however. Fin density has much to do with it, as does airflow. Heatsink capacity will vary widely if these two conditions vary.
Given the high cost of these LEDs, it's better to use more heatsink than you need. You can never use too much. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
For to you, kings & armies are things mighty & enduring. To him, mere toys of the moment, to be overturned at the flick of a finger. Fortuna favet fortibus. |
| serein |
Posted: June 15, 2012 02:20 am
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Hey Everyone I have one 100W LED and another 70W LED.
70W has these specs Power: 70W (real 70W, 70W lose ten times) Input voltage: 32V-36V Input Current: 2100MA Luminous Flux: 6300LM 100W has these specs Input: AC100-240V Output voltage :30-36V (tag labeled 36V) Output current: 2800mA Luminous flux :8000-9000LM Voltage :30-36V Current :3000-3300mA I have only one driver which I got with the 100W led it has these specs Output voltage: DC30-36V Output current: 2800mA Power factor greater than 0.85, the ripple is less than 100mV All circuits are EMC Will this be able to work with the 70W LED ? thanks This post has been edited by serein on June 15, 2012 02:21 am |
| Ice-Tea |
Posted: June 15, 2012 07:22 am
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No. Those are constant current drivers.
2.8A * 34V = 95W > 70W. |
| serein |
Posted: June 15, 2012 04:19 pm
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Damn have to get another driver board. Thanks Ice-Tea
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| tekwiz |
Posted: June 17, 2012 05:02 pm
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You could use that board with the 70W LED, but you will need a bigger heatsink & the LED will lose about 20% of it's lifespan. Changing the value of the current sensing resistor on the driver board to change it's output current is another option. -------------------- Trouble rather the tiger in his lair, than the sage among his books.
For to you, kings & armies are things mighty & enduring. To him, mere toys of the moment, to be overturned at the flick of a finger. Fortuna favet fortibus. |
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| serein |
Posted: July 15, 2012 12:11 am
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Hey people
have these quick questions about the 100W LED. is it okay to use a 70 degree thermostat with the 100W LED. also another dumb question I have two fans which I am planning to mount on the aluminum heatsink. I was wondering which sides of the fan should be connected. thanks |
| Skippic |
Posted: January 24, 2013 11:02 pm
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Hi serein,
I'm working on something similar and my intention is to use: http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/cpu/57/.html to cool a dimmable 100W LED. Since I want it to be as quiet as possible and it will rarely be used at full power I found a regulator for the fan: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CPU-VideoCard-IC-F...=item27ca8eb890 The price for the heatsink is about 30euro. Would this work for you? I also intend to place a thermostat next to the LED if anything fails, it will just turn off: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-KSD9700-Bimet...=item43b1d7fcf8 |
| CWB |
Posted: January 25, 2013 12:32 am
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hmmm ...
the last reply was about 7 months ago. the thread is about a year old . you might want to repost with a new topic . -------------------- "Know how to solve every problem that has been solved"
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